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By Thomas Lambrecht –

It is refreshing to discover that, for at least one very progressive bishop, there is a limit to how progressive a church can be before it ceases to be Methodist. Bishop Minerva Carcaño of the California-Nevada Annual Conference has been in the news for the last several weeks because of her confrontation with the leadership of Glide Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco, a church with a well-established reputation for being the largest United Methodist church in the Western Jurisdiction and among the largest in the United States.

Carcaño has refused to appoint any pastor to Glide this year in a dispute with the church that may even lead to the congregation’s attempting to leave the denomination. The church’s last senior pastor, the Rev. Jay Williams, lasted less than a year before resigning to return to his previous appointment in Boston. The two associate pastors on staff are being reappointed to other churches. No new pastors are being appointed to the church at this time, and the district superintendent is arranging for weekly pulpit supply and pastoral care.

The concerns that have led to this situation are theological, as well as financial and related to power and control.

The Rev. Cecil Williams served the church as lead pastor from 1964 until his “retirement” in 2000. In 1967 he removed the cross from the sanctuary in an attempt to make Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Wiccans, and atheists/agnostics feel comfortable attending the church. According to Bishop Carcaño, however, it appears that in attempting to reach out to non-Christians, the very basis of the gospel was compromised.

In an open letter, Carcaño stated, “Leaders from these [non-Christian] constituencies are quick to publicly state that they do not want the Celebrations, or the church, to be United Methodist or Christian in any form. Sunday Celebrations are uplifting concerts, but lack the fundamentals of Christian worship. Baptisms are conducted periodically but in the name of the people rather than from a Christian understanding of Baptism. Holy Communion was done away with some time ago and only introduced back into the life of the congregation this past Spring, but outside of the Celebration gatherings and with much resistance. We seek to be in good and loving relationship with persons of other faiths and beliefs, and those who claim no faith. However, this should never cause us to lose our own faith.”

According to Carcaño, “the great majority of the participants at Glide’s Sunday Celebrations claim other faiths.” If Baptism has not been administered as a Christian sacrament, one wonders whether membership has been faithful to the vows mandated by the Discipline and found in the Hymnal. It’s possible that many of the over 13,000 members reported by Glide are in fact not even Christian and have not taken vows affirming Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

Additionally, “there are also serious concerns about the governance and financial administration of the church,” Carcaño declared. “The church has no organizational structure to fulfill its responsibilities as per The Book of Discipline, and has not had a United Methodist organizational structure for decades. The only body that functions in any leadership capacity is a group of congregational leaders hand-picked by Cecil Williams who have never been elected or recognized by the congregation.”

Glide Memorial United Methodist Church.

The question here is who really runs Glide Church? It appears that the Glide Foundation, formed by Williams in 2000, is really the governing entity for the congregation. The Foundation receives millions of dollars a year for the social outreach ministry of the church, housing and feeding the homeless, providing ministry related to HIV/AIDS, and many other worthwhile projects. In a guest editorial in the San Francisco Chronicle, Williams stated: “The Glide board of trustees controls the foundation’s resources, of which 95 percent support social programming, and 5 percent go toward church activities.”

Responding also in a guest editorial in the Chronicle, Carcaño wrote, “In May, I attempted to appoint a senior pastor to Glide Memorial who was welcomed by the congregational leaders, but rejected by the Board of Trustees of the Glide Foundation.” So the Foundation apparently controls the church.

Behind all of this lies the former lead pastor, Williams, and his wife, Janice Mirikitani. Despite the fact that there have been four lead pastors appointed to the church since 2000, including now-bishop Karen Oliveto, Williams has continued to maintain leadership of the church and the Foundation. Carcaño described it this way: “No pastor has been allowed to exercise their rightful authority or responsibilities while serving at Glide. To this day, Cecil Williams and his wife, Janice Mirikitani, make all decisions in the background at Glide.”

“The Glide Foundation runs the business of the Foundation under the church’s 501(c)(3), yet renders no financial reports through United Methodist disciplinary processes,” Carcaño went on. “Appointed pastors are left to alone protect the resources of the church yet have no access to the full financial records of the church, nor do they have any say over the use of the church property.” In fact, pastors did not even receive keys to the church building, nor has there been a recent audit of the Foundation’s books. While the Foundation shelters its finances under the church’s tax-exempt status, there appears to be little or no independent financial accountability.

Bishop Carcaño should be applauded for attempting to bring Glide back into compliance with the United Methodist Discipline. I’m glad she stated in her editorial, “As United Methodists, we respect all faiths, love all people, and are committed to working with persons of other faiths and goodwill to make the world a better place. We also want to sustain our beliefs as Methodists.”

This is exactly the kind of accountability and supervision that has been lacking from many of our bishops in recent decades. One wonders where the seven bishops were who presided over the California-Nevada Conference prior to Carcaño, while all of this was developing. Since 2000, Bishops Beverly Shamana and Warner Brown should have at least stopped Williams from continuing to exercise pastoral authority when no longer the appointed pastor to the church. Indeed, in many parts of the country, a pastor who retires from a congregation is not allowed to even participate in his or her former congregation for a period of at least a year and in some cases never.

At this point, it is impossible to say how this conflict might turn out. It will be interesting to see if Glide can be brought back under the umbrella of United Methodism, or whether they have departed so far from the doctrine and governance of our church that restoration is impossible. But reasserting the denomination’s discipline and reestablishing healthy theological and structural boundaries are struggles worth having.

No one ought to confuse Bishop Carcaño with being a card-carrying evangelical or even a consistent upholder of the order of the church. There are many other ways in which Carcaño is not abiding by the Discipline. And this act of attempted accountability does not mean revival is around the corner. Even if Glide is restored to the church, it will never be conservative in theology. However, Carcaño’s willingness to exercise the accountability expected of her office as bishop demonstrates that it is possible to hold one another accountable in love for the sake of the mission of the church. If all our other bishops were willing to consistently and fairly follow her example, it would go a long way toward restoring the trust in the Council of Bishops that has been so thoroughly shattered.

“While the cross was removed from the Glide Memorial United Methodist Church sanctuary in 1967, the cross still stands on the tower of the church, at the corner of Taylor and Ellis streets, as a beacon of hope to the people of the Tenderloin and the greater San Francisco area,” Bishop Carcaño wrote in the Chronicle. “Glide Memorial United Methodist Church must remain true to the mission of the United Methodist Church to make disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world. There are no enemies here. There is only good work to be done.”

For the sake of the gospel and the reputation of The United Methodist Church, we should all pray for her endeavor.

You can read more extensive coverage of the Glide situation here and here.

Thomas Lambrecht is a United Methodist clergyperson and the vice president of Good News. 


  1. I am certain Bishop Carcano would rather not be praised by anyone from Good News, the WCA or the IRD. Indeed, Cecil Williams’ snarky comment in the SF CHRONICLE that she wants Glide to turn traditional and conservative was laughable enough, given that Cecil and Janice his wife know better. Kudos to her for ending the dysfunctional enabling that has continued through various predecessors. Kudos to Jay Williams who resigned with grace rather than continue the charade. GLIDE and Cecil/Janice are too fixed in the Bay Area Heavens to be moved but the bishop’s effort at restoring some measure of theological integrity to what once was a great church and remains a great social services agency are to be commended.

  2. “One wonders where the seven bishops were who presided over the California-Nevada Conference prior to Carcaño, while all of this was developing.”

    Seven bishops and not one leader.

  3. Would John Wesley be welcomed here to preach the Gospel? The only positive I can find here is that this organization calling itself a church leaves the UMC and takes the Western Jurisdiction with it — unless there’s an awakening here rivaling that of the Great Awakening of Wesley’s day.

  4. Dear Bob, the report breaks my heart; but I have asked publicly several times about Biblical Doctrine concerning Bishops as to when we threw the Scripture away regarding the office of Bishop. I believe that Timothy covered this issue explicitly in:
    1 Timothy 3:1 “This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work.
    1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach;
    1Ti 3:3 not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous;
    1Ti 3:4 one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence
    1Ti 3:5 (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?);
    1Ti 3:6 not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil.
    1Ti 3:7 Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

    There is no provision for a female to hold the office of Bishop. When the church allowed this, it was the equivalent of the camel putting its nose in the tent….then the entire animal entered. Because the UNM church has chosen to ignore the tennents of Scripture, we have today’s problem. I have asked repeatedly; but no one has given me an answer as to how this happened, nor a solution to rectify it.

  5. John Wesley’s standard demons ought to be read from the pulpit. “The Almost Christian” might be a good one to start with. There is another one that talks about “Not everyone who cries Lord Lord, will enter the kingdom”. That big church would empty itself of Heathen who choose to refuse Jesus as Lord as well as the teachings of “Methodism”. The church is not doing anyone a real service if they provide earthly provision to the community without a pathway to salvation and sanctification. There are likely a small percentage of righteous and faithful at Glide who understand how important Christ is to the church. It will only be with this small minority attracting like people that a church of “Altogether Christians” to quote “The Almost Christian” can be assembled. If you stock up a congregation with non-Christian or non-Christ followers, the congregation will drag on the church like barnacles on a ship. There will be a time when the gardener will prune the vines so that the vineyard can bear good grapes. The dead wood will go into the fire. The live vines can flourish without being choked out by the dead.

  6. Great example of the destiny of Progressivism in the UMC. By throwing out Biblical authority the flood gates have been opened, and there are no longer any constraints, barriers or higher authority to look upon for guidance.

    Their model is increasingly committed to worldly human gratification, opinion, power and influence. It will grow increasingly extreme and leave more and more behind as the fight for control expands and fragments.

    Oppose them and you are vilified. For now, just in the media, later by law.

    Methodist bishops and seminaries have enabled this movement within the UMC. Once the orthodox members and churches leave, the pace of extremism will increase.

    There is only one way forward to stay unified as a UMC: they renew and enforce the covenants and sacraments you voluntarily took.

  7. “Standard Sermons”, not “standard demons”, in the previous comment. I suppose the standard sermons might combat some standard demons though so there could be an unintended word play in the typo. Perhaps even when there is error in the words, a meaningful message is still available.

  8. Dave,
    You have defined the issue precisely. Thank you. Those old adages — “give them an inch and they’ll take a mile”, and “the chickens have come home to roost” are likely too folksy for elite intellectuals to appreciate —- but that’s exactly what has happened to the liberalization of the UMC hierarchy over these more recent several decades.

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